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taken from: Suicide & After words

It’s been said that souls are ‘dying’ to come into this world! That’s interesting - they’re anxious to come into this world! One could think: ‘Why? Why would they want a body?’ You could speculate that a soul that wants to come into this world has a wide perspective - can see what this world is all about. It’s not a comfortable place to be in - not for anybody! As Gurdjieff pointed out - this is a ‘pain factory’.
The more you see the more you realize how true that is. The black and the white, the old and the young, the rich and the poor, the healthy and the unhealthy - how everyone is suffering! If a disincarnate soul can see with a wider perspective, then they are not coming here to have a good time. They are not going to have a good time! Nobody has a ‘good time’. This is not yet heaven - this is earth!

Related Subjects: Soul - 'pain factory'
taken from: Reason to Live

The connection between ’want’ and ’pain’. People talk about it: where did humanity take a ’wrong turn’? Not just individuals, humanity. Humanity made, and continues to make, a wrong turn! It has to do with wanting what you don’t have! That’s how we continually get thrown out of the ’Garden of Eden’. When you want something you don’t have, you are in pain. Call it pain, frustration, irritation, anger, resentment - a whole lot of subtle colors to it. ’Not getting what you want’ - negativity, all of it! It’s all the pain of not getting what you want. Why do you want? It doesn’t matter what it is that you want - you want because you’re unhappy, you’re ’unfulfilled’!

Tsahi : because you’re in pain, already.

Alan : yes, that’s right, yes, oh very good! It starts with pain. Because if you’re not in pain you don’t want anything, you’re satisfied. If you’re satisfied you don’t ’want’. It starts in displeasure. It goes looking for things that are ’missing’, or things that are there but ’shouldn’t be there’. It’s all mechanical.

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It’s all running from displeasure, and displeasure is pain.

Related Subjects: Want/pain

'Pain is a high vibration, begging for attention.'
It's a high vibration, that you are not used to. That can also arise with a 'pleasure' which is more intense than you're used to. Many things that are just new feels painful at first. As in bodywork when you go in very deep.

Related Subjects: Pain

the issue is the PAIN - the confusion, the wondering, the sleep, that whole business. And the only way someone is going to come to real terms with it, is to go through it. Not to avoid it with their 'cleverness'. But few allow themselve(s) to experience it, they try to circumvent it.

Related Subjects: Pain

Allow yourself to feel the pain, allow the tension, the pressure - get into it more. Then at least you'll know what it is that you must pass through. That's an essential step.

Related Subjects: Pain
taken from: End of Days

PAIN results from the inevitably corrupted (out-of-sync), habitual, mechanical level of an individual. 
Give that miserable vibration to the body. It can digest and convert that negative energy into its next octave - energy for Sustainable Self-Remembering. 
Only with that finer, transformed energy, can Higher Mind (outer or inner) connect and give further indications.

Related Subjects: Pain, Transformation
taken from: Suicide & After words

Every name of a person is a label for a package of pain. Because, mainly in pain are we so busy thinking. That could be a long discourse, that I won’t go into right now. But the less you protect your name, the less you are busy developing and ingratiating it - making it important either through pride or guilt. Dealing in life from your ‘name’, so to speak.
Your name has ‘self-interests’. It is, as if, ‘yourself’! You’re ‘identified’ with it.

Related Subjects: Pain
taken from: Reason to Live

Keeps the world going, it’s what’s called the devil - actually it’s totally mechanical, it’s compulsive. It comes from running away from the confusion and pain. You can’t drop a soul into this complex, ’humanly’ developed world, without it being confusing and painful. It’s like dropping us off in a Martian atmosphere where we don’t know what’s going on. The fact is that we don’t know. Everything is new, everything is painful. So all this activity is just to get away and maybe get enough energy to figure it out, and maybe come back and ’organize’ it. Everything false was already here before you. False sense of identity, false sense of ownership, false sense of importance. If you could only go through the pain, somehow, you might get to the bottom of it! The mind has to calm down, you have to be able to feel the pain in order to go through it.

Related Subjects: Devil, Pain
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Pain is energy! It’s a distorted energy, it is twisted energy but nevertheless it is energy. That’s the immense wisdom in the ’non-expression of negative emotions’. Because, if you don’t express your negativity - and that doesn’t mean just in words - then you’ve still got that energy. Energy is heat, and heat is light. Light enough for a person to view their own mechanical self-serving excuse/justification. ”I don’t feel good because I got something I shouldn’t have or I don’t have something I should have!” That’s what justification is - it’s ’because’. If you have a growing understanding of life, you begin to see that the ’becauses’ are imaginary!
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How does energy get twisted? It’s hard not to get a little technical here. Energy gets twisted because energy comes to us as ’impressions’. Impressions are energy. We are not conscious as an impression hits, so the impression is absorbed mechanically in one or another center. All impressions have a full range, like a rainbow. But if only one or another ’colour’ of an impression gets picked-up by, say, the emotional center, without awareness - that would be, by definition, ’twisted energy’.

Related Subjects: Energy, Negative, Pain

Here we go again - the pain, right? You see, the ’meditative place’ is behind the pain and the words! It’s not in thoughts of ’what I’m going to do next’ - which is trying to jump above the pain. To get into some activity, trying to jump above the pain, is the same as taking a shot of liquor or shot of heroin. We’ve got to drop through it - below it!
...............You got to go through that pain - it’s a residue, it’s a memory!
..................Go to the pain - don’t go to the explanation! There is no such thing as a clear explanation for pain - it’s a combination of all kinds of things. Whether it’s emotional pain, or mental pain, or physical pain - you must go to the vibration. And the place to start is in your body. It’s the ‘collector’. It collected all the twisted vibrations and it’s also the mechanism that can transform it! All those twisted vibrations, all those things we call pain, are intense energies which are incredibly needed - for what is called ’transformation’. If you give it the ‘light of attention’, it straightens, it turns into something else. But not necessarily when you want it to - at it’s limit!
Thinking about it doesn’t help. If you go through the pain, then you sit in a place of peace - there you can think! There you think - the mind doesn’t run you. That’s the place where the mind becomes the servant, rather than the master. The mind that tells you you’ve got to ’stick with something’ - that that’s responsibility - that’s the mind that is acting as ’master’. It’s the devil!
You see, this is why you feel the pain most when you’re with me. There’s enough trust on your part, and enough directness on mine, so that when your head starts doing things that are not clear, I can step in immediately - because I see you’re really running from the pain. So that leaves you with the pain. But you must stop resenting it - the pain, that is.
There’s a lot of pain - because you’ve done a lot of things! The more effort a person makes in this twisted world, the more pain they’re going to pick up. So the pain is not a sign of failure.

The energies that get ‘exaggerated’, whether it’s pain or pleasure - are an indication of imbalance. We didn’t give sufficient attention to other areas, feelings in other parts of our body. We only give attention when something screams!

Related Subjects: Pain

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